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Hey guys , it's me Hazel, So am in Germany now and me and my girlfriend we want to get married, the problem is I have no permit that allows me to stay here, can we get married despite of this ?

And am thinking of applying for asylum here too but am afraid of the Dublin Regulation. but can I get married than applying for asylum ?
Will it be possible for us to get married tho I have no residency permit?

By the way I withdrew my case from the Migration since they rejected it and they had sent it to court and I asked for it to be withdrawn and instead for me to move here and be with my girlfriend.

And if I seek asylum and they put me under Dublin Regulation can I still get married even tho and seeki g asylum and under Dublin?

She's also pregnant, I forgot to say this .

Thanks in advance
asked Nov 13, 2017 in Legal advice by Hazel

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Hello @Hazel - nice to hear from you again!

First of all, your plans to get married and the Dublin III regulation are not directly related to each other. Dublin III only regulates which country is responsible for your asylum case. BUT: If you get married to a German citizen you will get a residence permit for Germany. Then it’s not necessary to apply for asylum anyway and Dublin III isn’t applicable anymore.

I’m pretty sure that you have to have a legal status (like a residence permit) or a visa (“Visum zur Eheschließung”) in order to get married in Germany. Please keep in mind the answer that I gave to the question you asked here:

Have you tried the procedure that I outlined there? (What was the result? Where there problems with it?) If you want to, you can give us feedback in the other thread about that. It’s always helpful for us to improve our work :)

Maybe we can ask @Marcel and @Steven about their opinion about this?

Concerning your second question:

As you already pointed out Dublin III plays a significant role in your case. It is not possible for you to apply for asylum in Germany because you already registered and applied for it in Denmark. German authorities will just check back with the database and find out that they are not responsible for your case. In the end you will be send back to Denmark.

Concerning your pregnant fiancé:

We had a question about having a child with a German citizen and the implications it has for your legal status in this thread here on the community: Amongst other things we talked about acknowledgement of paternity (“Vaterschaftsanerkennung”) which is important to get a residence permit through the child. In this other thread Marcel pointed out that you can already try to do the “Vaterschaftsanerkennung” before the child is born: He said that you probably won’t get a residence permit (“Aufenthaltserlaubnis”) right away, but maybe you will get a “Duldung” (which means that you can’t get deported until further notice). But I’m not sure in how far your status of being an asylum seeker in Denmark is of importance in this case.

Best regards,
answered Nov 14, 2017 by Thor
Hi, sorry to contradict, but a legal status in Germany is NOT a condition to get married in Germany, even though some Ausländerbehörden might give you false information on this. Of course, getting married in Germany without a legal status is not an easy thing, but it is possible by law.
I read about Dublin that if I have a close relative, example Partner, Children or parents then Germany takes my case . In this case I have my fiancé here. Will my partner be considered if I apply for asylum?  And can I get married while my asylum process is being processed here in Germany ?
No need to apologize Steven. Thanks for clarifying the matter!
oh okay , thanks, my fiancé will go to the this place to ask and to get information about it on Friday at the federal state something . I hope there I can take my next step. Thanks so much
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