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Hi everyone.. can someone is undocumented or illegal immigrants in Germany do ausbildung and then after take duldung or resident permit?
asked Dec 19, 2019 in Legal advice by Sfnghazi | 818 views

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Hallo,

it is naturally not possible to start an Ausbildung as an illegal person. The company or school which takes such trainee, breaks the law and makes a criminal case, with bad consequences.

To start Ausbildung you must have one of the following options 1) a visum to come to Germany for this Ausbildung from a German embassy abroad 2) a legal residence permit in Germany with which you don't need any permission 3) if you don't have a residence permit you must be officially in an asylum procedure with Aufenthaltsgestattung or you must have a Duldung - in both cases you must ask for a permission to do this Ausbildung from the Ausländerbehörde in the place where you live.

That means you must first stop to be illegal and get at least a Duldung and with it try to get an permission. The problems are the penalty for your illegality, which can lead to a ban on any occupation (Ausbildung is a kind of "Beschäftigung" or occupation) and the need to give the Ausländerbehörde some documents as a proof of your identity which is always a condition to have a permission for work and Ausbildung if you have Duldung.

If you ask for asylum, you must normally live in a camp for months and have a ban on occupation there, so the Ausbildung won't be possible in near future. If it can be possible later, depends on too many factors to analyse here.

This is a general information which is not enough to evaluate your chances. You must seek für a good councelling center for migrants or, better, consult a good lawyer specialising in alien law.
answered Dec 21, 2019 by Alla_fka
No it is not possible! First you need to get all of your documents and get it recognised from the state government. Mine is for example I got it recognised from the Bezirksregierung Dusseldorf and received within 1 week and then you need to submit it to the ausbildung company. It depends actually ,it can take upto 1 year or months. If you come from a war torn country and lost all of your documents then you need to either file for an asylum or in generally apply for a german visa.
After the asylum process you can do one thing is to get yourself enrolled in the secondary schooling for adults and get the class 10 certificate then ausbildung.
I am glad that you found the way through all the difficulties.
If a person goes into asylum procedure, asks for a Duldung in the Ausländerbehörde or makes any contact to authorities and is registered as a foreigner, the person is not illegal after that, although the person doesn't have a long-term legal status (residence permit). A person is illegal, if German authorities are not informed about his/her presence in Germany or the whereabouts (place where one lives). During an asylum procedure a person is registered and has a German document for the time of this procedure. Then it is naturally no problem to start with a job or Ausbildung.
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