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I want to know certain  information on family reunion with a German child.

1. Is it a must that any foreigner that have a German child must go to his home country and come back with family reunion visa?

2. Why are they telling some to go back to their home country and come back with family reunion visa while some are granted with resident permit without going back to their home country ?

3. Even those that came to Europe through libya,  I know many been granted wIth resident permit without going back to their home country,  I say so if you want to say to come with the right visa.  This people didn't come to Europe with visa and they are granted stay in germany when they have a German child ...

4. If ausländerbehörde tell someone to go back to his or her home country , is it possible  that  lawyer can fight it in court and win?

5. Any idea that a German woman can do for his man so they can change the decision in court ? What if the german woman took depression attest from a doctor and give it to her man lawyer , is it any chance the court can decide for the man to stay in germany without going back and cone back with family reunion visa?

I need answers please thanks
asked Feb 11 in Legal advice by David123

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Even without marriage, protecting the family may lead to a right of residence. This applies above all to fathers of illegitimate, resident children who have recognized their paternity and actually take care of their child.

Deportation can be ruled out to protect the family and minors. Section 25 (5) of the Residence Act can then entitle you to a residence permit. A ban on deportation then follows from the protection of the family, Art. 6 GG and the Human Rights Convention (Art. 8 ECHR), so-called domestic obstacle to enforcement. An obstacle to departure may arise from Art. 6 GG or Art. 8 Para. 1 ECHR (cf. BVerwG, judgment of 04.09.2007 - 1 C 43/06 -), provided an exit for the foreigner and his family is unreasonable in individual cases appears. Example: Does the minor child live with the foreigner in a domestic community and this community can only be realized in the Federal Republic of Germany (e.g. because the child is of German nationality and the child cannot be reasonably expected to leave the Federal Republic because of the relationships with his mother), this can result in a right to stay. According to the case law of the European Court of Human Rights (cf. judgment of 06.12.2007 - 69735/01 - [Chair], InfAuslR 2008. 111), the following criteria must be met when examining whether the plaintiff's obligation to leave violates Art. 8 ECHR take into account: type and severity of the crime duration of the foreigner's stay in the country from which he is to be expelled, the time elapsed since the crime and the behavior of the foreigner during this time, the nationalities of the various persons concerned, the family situation of the foreigner, e.g. the length of the marriage knowledge of the spouse of the offenses upon entering into the family relationship common children and their ages weight of the difficulties that the spouse and children of the foreigner would likely encounter in the country to which the foreigner is to be deported strength of social cultural and family ties with the host country and with the country of destination All of the above aspects are important. Each individual case is unique and must be analyzed for its peculiarities. Without a competent lawyer, it will be difficult to prevail against the immigration authorities. 

Auch ohne Heirat kann der Schutz der Familie unter Umständen zu einem Aufenthaltsrecht führen. Dies gilt vor allem für Väter von nichtehelichen, aufenthaltsberechtigten Kindern, die ihre Vaterschaft anerkannt haben und sich um ihr Kind auch tatsächlich kümmern.

Eine Abschiebung kann zum Schutz der Familie und minderjähriger Kinder ausgeschlossen sein. Einen Anspruch auf Erteilung einer Aufenthaltserlaubnis kann es dann aus § 25 Abs. 5 AufenthG geben.

Ein Abschiebeverbot folgt dann aus dem Schutz der Familie, Art. 6 GG und der Menschenrechtskonvention (Art. 8 EMRK), so genanntes inlandsbezogenes Vollstreckungshindernis.

Ein Ausreisehindernis kann sich aus Art. 6 GG bzw. Art. 8 Abs. 1 EMRK ergeben (vgl. BVerwG, Urteil vom 04.09.2007 – 1 C 43/06 -), sofern eine Ausreise für den Ausländer und seine Familie im Einzelfall unzumutbar erscheint.

Beispiel: Lebt das minderjährige Kind mit dem Ausländer in häuslicher Gemeinschaft und kann diese Gemeinschaft nur in der Bundesrepublik Deutschland verwirklicht werden (z.B. weil das Kind die deutsche Staatsangehörigkeit besitzt und dem Kind wegen der Beziehungen zu seiner Mutter das Verlassen der Bundesrepublik nicht zumutbar ist), so kann sich daraus ein Bleiberecht ergeben.

Bei der Prüfung, ob eine Ausreisepflicht des Klägers gegen Art. 8 EMRK verstößt, sind nach der Rechtsprechung des Europäischen Gerichtshofes für Menschenrechte (vgl. Urteil vom 06.12.2007 – 69735/01 – [Chair], InfAuslR 2008. 111) folgende Kriterien zu berücksichtigen:

  • Art und Schwere der Straftat
  • Dauer des Aufenthaltes des Ausländers in dem Land, aus welchem er ausgewiesen werden soll
  • die seit der Straftat verstrichene Zeit und
  • das Verhalten des Ausländers während dieser Zeit
  • die Staatsangehörigkeiten der verschiedenen betroffenen Personen
  • die familiäre Situation des Ausländers wie z.B. die Dauer der Ehe
  • Kenntnis des Ehegatten von den Straftaten bei Aufnahme der familiären Beziehung
  • gemeinsame Kinder und deren Alter
  • Gewicht der Schwierigkeiten, auf die Ehegatte und Kinder des Ausländers in dem Land wahrscheinlich stoßen würden, in das der Ausländer auswiesen werden soll
  • Festigkeit der sozialen kulturellen und familiären Bande mit dem Gastland und mit dem Bestimmungsland

Auf alle vorstehenden Gesichtspunkte kommt es an. Jeder Einzelfall ist einzigartig und muss auf seine Besonderheiten hin analysiert werden. Ohne fachkundigen Anwalt wird man sich gegen die Ausländerbehörden nur schwer durchsetzen können.

answered Feb 11 by Ria
@Ria Okay but does illegal stay in Germany maybe if your asylum is finished and you went hiding, maybe staying with your german girlfriend. If she become pregnant and later put to birth , will they grant the illegal boyfriend Resident permit or he have to go back to his home country and come back with family reunion visa? I have been seeing many cases in this wefugees where other people post questions about what ausländerbehörde tell them to leave Germany and come back with family reunion visa. So is it because of illegal stay? Or ? Even if they tell person to go and come back , can lawyer win such case in court ? Thanks need your reply
@Ria, do you mean that if they tell someone to go and come back with family union visa, they won't let him come back and stay with his or her daughter because of one or two criminal record or even if the person don't have any case of criminality before, will they still approve their family reunion visa so they can be with their German child ?
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